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assignee=Noneclosed_at=Nonecreated_at=<Date2022-04-04.19:57:08.003>labels= ['type-bug', 'expert-asyncio']
title='asyncio with two interpreter instances'updated_at=<Date2022-04-04.20:38:00.422>user='https://bugs.python.org/mbadaire'
Hi,
I have an issue when using asyncio and two interpreter instances each launched and used in a seperated thread.
I am getting a asyncio loop for each thread .However asyncio is getting me the same loop because of this code in get_running_loop. Indeed when I have two interpreter, the ts_id would be the same for both my threads and therefore I will get the cached value of the first thread. cached_running_holder being static, it is the same value for all instances of interpreter.
Maybe we should check if we are in the same interpreter or same thread ,.. I am not sure how it could be fixed.
_asynciomodule.c:
get_running_loop(PyObject**loop)
{
PyObject*rl;
PyThreadState*ts=_PyThreadState_GET();
uint64_tts_id=PyThreadState_GetID(ts);
if (ts_id==cached_running_holder_tsid&&cached_running_holder!=NULL) {
If it does not make sense, I have some sample code but it is not just 10 lines.
hello, is there anything we can do to get some attention ?
This is a blocking issue in our project which spawn several instances from a Python embedded framework
It looks like asyncio has not been updated to support use in multiple interpreters -- the module uses a whole bunch of global variables to store state. Until that is dealt with, asyncio cannot be used reliably with multiple interpreters. See PEP 687. @erlend-aasland
Also note that this is unlikely to be considered a bug, so no backports. Likewise it is unlikely to happen for 3.11 since the feature freeze is literally today. Thus the soonest you may see a fix is 3.12 (Fall 2023), unfortunately.
Thanks for the update, we will be patient. just a shame not to have back port, but understood the amount of work.
Now, we would be really please to test it when you want .
Reopening: the future iter object freelist is still a static global, and we forgot to clean up Tools/c-analyzer/cpython/globals-to-fix.tsv.
I left that freelist intentionally as it is not an issue until we have per interpreter GIL. @markshannon has ideas for a global better freelist so hopefully we should be able to remove this freelist entirely.
I left that freelist intentionally as it is not an issue until we have per interpreter GIL. @markshannon has ideas for a global better freelist so hopefully we should be able to remove this freelist entirely.
I left that freelist intentionally as it is not an issue until we have per interpreter GIL. @markshannon has ideas for a global better freelist so hopefully we should be able to remove this freelist entirely.
Hm. I wouldn't necessarily count on Mark's single freelist idea to be implemented before we get a per-subinterpreter GIL (esp. since the work on mimalloc seems stalled, alas -- Christian Heimes seems to be occupied by other things).
So I think it would behoove us to move fi_freelist and fi_freelist_len to the "per runtime" structure? Or what am I missing?
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mbadaire commentedon Apr 4, 2022
Hi,
I have an issue when using asyncio and two interpreter instances each launched and used in a seperated thread.
I am getting a asyncio loop for each thread .However asyncio is getting me the same loop because of this code in get_running_loop. Indeed when I have two interpreter, the ts_id would be the same for both my threads and therefore I will get the cached value of the first thread. cached_running_holder being static, it is the same value for all instances of interpreter.
Maybe we should check if we are in the same interpreter or same thread ,.. I am not sure how it could be fixed.
If it does not make sense, I have some sample code but it is not just 10 lines.
pipiche38 commentedon May 6, 2022
hello, is there anything we can do to get some attention ?
This is a blocking issue in our project which spawn several instances from a Python embedded framework
Thanks in advance
ericsnowcurrently commentedon May 6, 2022
It looks like asyncio has not been updated to support use in multiple interpreters -- the module uses a whole bunch of global variables to store state. Until that is dealt with, asyncio cannot be used reliably with multiple interpreters. See PEP 687. @erlend-aasland
Also note that this is unlikely to be considered a bug, so no backports. Likewise it is unlikely to happen for 3.11 since the feature freeze is literally today. Thus the soonest you may see a fix is 3.12 (Fall 2023), unfortunately.
erlend-aasland commentedon May 7, 2022
Yeah, as soon as PEP 687 land, we can start the process of implementing this. I believe I've got a WIP branch lying around already.
pipiche38 commentedon May 7, 2022
Thanks for the update, we will be patient. just a shame not to have back port, but understood the amount of work.
Now, we would be really please to test it when you want .
Potential testing platforms OS: raspian or fedora
erlend-aasland commentedon May 7, 2022
I can push it to my fork next week, so you can play with it.
kumaraditya303 commentedon May 24, 2022
One workaround currently is to not use
_asynciospeed up module but to use pure python version as that does not has this limitation.pipiche38 commentedon May 24, 2022
interesting. How to you prevent using _asyncio ?
kumaraditya303 commentedon May 24, 2022
Before importing
asyncioadd this line:pipiche38 commentedon May 24, 2022
@kumaraditya303 if ayncio is imported in many module. does it enough to do it only once while importing asyncio for the first time ?
[edit] at least I did it prior the first occurence of import and this looks pretty good .
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ericsnowcurrently commentedon Nov 29, 2022
Thanks for working on this, @kumaraditya303!
erlend-aasland commentedon Jan 23, 2023
Reopening: the future iter object freelist is still a static global, and we forgot to clean up
Tools/c-analyzer/cpython/globals-to-fix.tsv.pythonGH-91375: Purge asyncio variables from globals-to-fix list
kumaraditya303 commentedon Jan 24, 2023
I left that freelist intentionally as it is not an issue until we have per interpreter GIL. @markshannon has ideas for a global better freelist so hopefully we should be able to remove this freelist entirely.
erlend-aasland commentedon Jan 24, 2023
I see, thanks for the heads-up.
pythonGH-91375: Purge asyncio variables from globals-to-fix list
GH-91375: Purge `asyncio` static variables from globals-to-fix list (#…
gvanrossum commentedon Jan 24, 2023
Hm. I wouldn't necessarily count on Mark's single freelist idea to be implemented before we get a per-subinterpreter GIL (esp. since the work on mimalloc seems stalled, alas -- Christian Heimes seems to be occupied by other things).
So I think it would behoove us to move
fi_freelistandfi_freelist_lento the "per runtime" structure? Or what am I missing?